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Fax de Mgr Tissier de Mallerais & la dissidence de la FSSPX de Corée

 
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MessagePosté le: Mar 18 Sep 2012, 15:33    Sujet du message: Fax de Mgr Tissier de Mallerais & la dissidence de la FSSPX de Corée Répondre en citant


Facsimilé du fax de Mgr Tissierde Mallerais du sept septembre

  
Posté le: Lun 10 Sep - 01:30   Sujet du message: Sur le front de la résistance aux accords septembre 2012

[Blog "Traditionalistes!"] FSSPX : ça barde en Corée.

SOURCE - Blog "Traditionalistes!" - 9 septembre 2012


Parmi les cinq prêtres de la FSSPX récemment entrés en dissidence, deux (les abbés Chazal et J. Pfeiffer) étaient en poste en Asie. Leur opposition à tout accord trouve a priori quelque écho dans le (très restreint) milieu traditionaliste coréen. Le site sspxkorea.org, anciennement officiel, se range à leurs côtés – tout en se réclamant toujours de la FSSPX.

Le Supérieur (officiel) de la FSSPX en Asie est l’abbé Couture, qui lance un appel aux fidèles de Corée pour les rassurer : il n’y aura pas d’accord avec la Rome moderniste («modernist Rome»). Par ailleurs l’association «The Society of St Pius X, Korea» est affilée à Menzingen, il vient d’embaucher un juriste («an excellent lawyer») qui veillera à ses intérêts matériels. Enfin, l'abbé Couture rappelle les buts de la FSSPX et dénonce les agissements de la dissidence – l’abbé Onada (qui lui est fidèle) n’a par exemple pas pu accéder à la chapelle de Séoul, fermée pour sa venue. L’abbé Couture exhorte les fidèles coréens à suivre la FSSPX officielle, et non des prêtres «désobéissants et indépendants» («disobedient and independent»), tels que l’abbé Chazal, qui a maintenant «quitté la FSSPX» («left the SSPX»).


Et pour donner plus de poids à son appel, l’abbé Couture publie deux fax de Mgr Tissier de Mallerais, l’un du 7 septembre 2012, l’autre du lendemain. Signe que la confiance (ne) règne (pas forcément) entre l’abbé Couture et ses ouailles coréennes, ces fax sont rédigés directement en anglais, il en donne les fac-similés manuscrits. Que disent-ils ?


Le fax du 7 septembre rend compte de ce que Mgr Tissier de Mallerais a dit à l’abbé Chazal : qu’il a raison sur le fond mais pas sur la forme. L’abbé est un «simple soldat» de cette petite troupe qu’est la FSSPX, il doit rester à sa place et laisser les «capitaines» commander le mouvement – ils interviendront sans faute auprès du Supérieur Général lorsque cela sera nécessaire («they will surely usefully intervene when necessary»). La division serait un péril auquel Rome ne serait pas étranger («the peril of being divided by Rome’s attempts»).


Le fax du 8 septembre s’adresse aux fidèles de Corée. Mgr Tissier de Mallerais répète les assurances données par l’abbé Couture: pas d’accord avec la Rome moderniste («the modernistic Rome»). Et il insiste sur la nécessaire unité de la FSSPX, qui est un bastion («the bastion») face à l’Ennemi de l’Eglise («the Ennemy of the Church»).


En résumé: les fidèles coréens sont soumis à deux discours, qui prônent tout deux une opposition radicale à toute réintégration, et qui ne se différencient que par la stratégie: pour s’opposer le plus efficacement possible, faut-il rester dans la FSSPX ou en sortir?

Source: Tradinews
Source anglaise d'origine: http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Letter-from-Tissier-on-SSPX-Asia-Website


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MessagePosté le: Mar 18 Sep 2012, 15:42    Sujet du message: Lettre de l'abbé Couture, Supérieur du District d'Asie, aux fidèles Coréens Répondre en citant

Society of St Pius X - District of Asia
St Pius X Priory
286 Upper Thomson Rd
Singapore 574402
Tel. 65/ 6459 0792
Fax. 65/ 6459 3591
district@sspxasia.com
 


An appeal to the our SSPX Korean Faithful

 

September 8, 2012
 


Dear Faithful,

May the peace of Our Lord Jesus Christ and of His Immaculate Mother be with you all !
Our Korean mission is very close to their Hearts since the devil is now at work to try to undermine the work of more than 20 years. It is my duty to clarify many things to understand what is happening now.
A deal with modernist Rome?
Bishop Fellay said recently, in many public conferences in Australia, that nothing new would happen for the SSPX under the present pope. And if we consider the appointment last June of the German Archbishop Müller at the head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith – he considers Vatican II as infallible - the present situation is going to continue as it is for many more years.
Some however thought and prophesised that Bishop Fellay was going to surrender the SSPX to the modernist authorities, to the conciliar errors and to the new mass. They were certain this was going to happen in June. But it didn’t. They then announced it was going to happen in July. It didn’t. Now they say it will be in October, or November, it will not. Or in 5 or 10 years. It will not! They are like the false prophets announcing repeatedly that the end of world is imminent, and that we should store food in our houses in preparation. As a consequence people live in constant fear of what might happen soon.
Those who are doing this today are leading souls by fear and away from Catholic Tradition.

The SSPX in Korea

Many false rumours and accusations are circulating at the present about the SSPX in Korea, unfortunately by some of our faithful who have now been caught in this “fear-ofa-deal” syndrome. Let me clarify this.

1. Our Holy Faith

We profess as we have always done to maintain the Catholic Faith in line with the famous Declaration of Archbishop Lefebvre, in 1974: We hold firmly with all our heart and with all our mind to Catholic Rome, Guardian of the Catholic Faith and of the traditions necessary to the maintenance of this faith, to the eternal Rome, mistress of wisdom and truth.
We refuse on the other hand, and have always refused, to follow the Rome of Neo-Modernist and Neo-Protestant tendencies, which became clearly manifest during the Second Vatican Council, and after the Council, in all the reforms which issued from it. … This is what we are, and, by the grace of God, what we will remain.

2. The Association of “The Society of St Pius X, Korea”


This is our legal association in Korea, approved on March 20, 2008. This association is affiliated with the international SSPX which has its headquarters in Menzingen, Switzerland. It is this association that is renting our present chapel in Seoul, that owns
the apartment in Jungno 1ga, that manages all the goods given to the SSPX. Fr. Onoda is its president.
Last week, Fr. Onoda and I have found an excellent lawyer to protect the association, to make sure we follow all its By-Laws legally, and to defend the association from anyone who wants to harm it in any ways. Therefore it is a false accusation to say that we have hired a lawyer to steal away the goods of the association. It is rather those who make this accusation who are trying to disrupt the peaceful life of the association.

3. The purpose of our legal association “SSPX Korea”

Fr. Onoda is the president of the association. He has been given the responsibility to provide for the purpose of the association which is: “The Society, being desirous of following the Holy Tradition of the Catholic Church, has its purpose to spread her Traditional Mass, her traditional doctrine, her traditional catechism and morals.” (Art. 4)
At the present moment, some members have interfered with the exercise of his priestly duties and of his legitimate authority as president in many ways: by posting material on the SSPX Korean website on their own initiative, even against the approval of Fr. Onoda, by distributing printed material in the chapel which undermines the respect for the authority of the association and of the SSPX, by intimidating, harassing and spreading
malicious lies against the priests who have been sacrificing themselves freely for the Korean faithful for so many years, and now by provoking a division among our people, as a result of all these actions. The chapel has even been locked to stop Fr. Onoda from entering it.

Conclusion
Dear Faithful, the Society of St Pius X will not abandon you! You have come to us to be guided by priests who provide you with the sound doctrine and with the grace of God, priests who belong to a large organization, the SSPX. These priests have superiors who watch over them to be sure they act as good priests, that they teach the truth and administer properly both the sacraments and the goods entrusted to our care. Do not follow priests who openly revolt against their superiors, who become disobedient and independent ! By abandoning his assignment in France and by coming back to Korea and to Asia after receiving the two normal canonical warnings and against an explicit order of Bishop Fellay, Fr. Chazal has now publically left the SSPX. The only thing we can do at present for him is to pray for him.
May the Queen of Peace, whose birthday is celebrated today, come to our aid and expand rapidly the Kingship of her Divine Son in beautiful Korea !


Fr Daniel Couture


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MessagePosté le: Mar 18 Sep 2012, 21:49    Sujet du message: Fax de Mgr Tissier de Mallerais & la dissidence de la FSSPX de Corée Répondre en citant

Trouvée sur Ignis Ardens, voici la lettre de l'abbé Pfeiffer en réponse à celle de l'abbé Couture plus haut.
Ainsi que l'indique l'introduction en anglais, Cette lettre a été postée, hier (le 15 septembre) par un prêtre, que je considère (dixit hollingsworth, l'auteur du message d'Ignis Ardens) être une soource très fiable. Sa propre lettre ets datée du 13 septembre 2012.



 
Citation:
The following letter to Fr. Couture from Fr. Pfeiffer was emailed to me yesterday by a priest, who I consider to be a very reliable source. The letter itself is dated Sept. 13. If it has already been posted elsewhere, Clare, feel free to remove the new topic. No use cluttering up things.

SOURCE: http://z10.invisionfree.com/Ignis_Ardens/index.php?s=6a5e41258c3f244f0b62a1d008553308&showtopic=10869&view=getnewpost

Dear Fr. Couture,
In Answer to the Second "canonical monition" and after taking counsel from a Canon Lawyer, and other priests, it is necessary to note the following:

1. It is soley within the competence of the Superior General to give Monitions of expulsion to the members of his order. Lower authorities do not have the competence. (e.g District Superiors can punish only within their districts in regard to their district) Hence the Superior General is the correct authority to both admonish and expel his subjects according to Justice and the law.
Therefore, the two "canonical monitions" sent from the District of Asia go beyond the competence of the District. Expulsion of members, especially perpetual members of the SSPX belongs to Superior General alone. To date, I received no communication either of praise or correction from the Superior General. Therefore I remain, according to the law, a member in good standing in the SSPX.

2. No specific crime is indicated in the monition, hence no delict exists since "odiosa sunt adstrigenda." no one can be punished for "scandal and spiritual damage" as you claim in your second monition, but only for specific acts which can thus be exposed by the prosecution and answered by the defendant before an impartial tribunal--which tribunal does not exist.

The 2 "canonical Monitions" are invalid on the grounds of exceeding the competence of the one issuing it and on the grounds of lack of clear accusation of crime. On either ground the case of expulsion should not only be thrown out of court, but should not be allowed to be tried.

3. I have received a positive command from you to be completely silent on anything that either is or may be perceived to be a criticism of the Superior General and his current direction. This last week, Bishop Fellay seems to have reversed his current and now says that he was deceived and erred in a dangerous way in the past few months. Does this mean that those in favor of the current that flows to Rome should now be silenced? Does this mean that now I can criticize compromising with Rome? Now I can say no deal with Rome until Rome converts? (Yesterday this must have been wrong since yesterday the SG had a different idea. But today it is true since today the SG has changed his mind.) Does Truth evolve? Your answer must be "Not so but distinguo in the Superior YES in the subject NO" This is mitigated modernism, Truth evolves for the modernist period, but for you and the neo-SSPX truth cannot evolve in mere mortals or mere popes, but only in "the Superior General." Your place in the fight for Tradition is thus undermined and completely unstable since it rests on the cult of a man instead of the Divine Cult of God in His Church and in His unchanging Faith.

4. Fr. Chazal and myself made no predictions about the deal with Rome. Fr. Schmidtburger and Fr. lombardi announced it for the end of May. Then The Vatican for June 13, We only repeated what they said, so that the faithful would know. We are not the prophets of doom. We only preach what we SSPXers, including yourself, have consistently preached for the last 40 years. (i.e VII =Bad, eternal Rome=Good: Compromise=evil: Fidelity to unchanging Truth=Good: Deal with Rome before Rome converts=Bad: Deal with Rome w/o conversion=Wicked betrayal etc. cf. ABL ubique)

We let our yes be yes and our no be no. We operate in the open and resist Modernism and its protaganists "to the face." Our fight is not with men nor even Menzingen, but with the Devil and his host.

If you were secure in your position of turning to Modernist Rome to make the SSPX another Novus Ordo appendage as the FSSP et alii, you would be able to defend this position in the light of day with clear arguments, and proofs of the supposed change of Rome, and of the clear difference of Rome today with the Rome of Vatican II errors. If you stood on Truth, you would not need to resort to threats and defamation to discredit those who disagree with the neo-SSPX.

Further our problem, Fr. Chazal and myself, is not only with a deadly wicked deal with non converted Conciliar Rome, but more importantly, our problem with the neo-SSPX is its modernist tendancies, promoted by the official organs of the SSPX such as Dici.org and SSPX.org which have mixed Novus Ordo and Traditional things together, (e.g. present banner of Dici.org showing Novus ordo ordinands then SSPX ordinands as if they are the same! article on bishops criticizing lack of Religious Liberty in Afganistan, explaining away the popes promotion of condoms for homosexuals and so on) without any clarifications, condemnations of the various selected acts of Modernist Rome.

Fr. Chazal and I are not disturbed by the threats of excommunication from our Order or from any unjust treatments connected thereto. We are not upset with those who malign and condemn us, many do so with good will, unaware of the danger to Faith, now present within the SSPX ranks and pews throughout the world. We also have happily worked under your direction over the past 6 years for myself, and 10 years for Fr. Chazal. You have been in so many ways good to us. Our problem is only with the danger to souls presented by the present unstable modernist direction of the SSPX

We continue "as we are," priests of the SSPX at war with Modernism. We continue "as we are" loyal sons of Archbishop Lefebvre, following his clear non-compromising Catholic plan of action for our times. We continue "as we are" in the work of spreading the Gospel with the Caritas Christi which urget nos.

in Christ,

Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer
London Airport Sept. 13, 2012



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